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Hi all,

Since there is an ongoing updates and everything from the recent decision regarding the AZ’s bill/ law on the immigration reform.  I am providing 4 different links on AZ central (the online version of the Arizona Republic; the main news paper source Ch. 12 NBC news in the Phoenix area) on the subject:

1.  Click here for another Sheriff Joe Arpaio immigration sweep.

2.  Click here as Gov. Jan Brewer considers tweaking the immigration law.

3.  Click here as AZ\’s image is affected by the law.

4.  Click here as this subject triggers shockwaves across the nation.

Enjoy,

Steve Weingarten

Hi all,

Here is a story from the Arizona republic that talks about the ruling that U.S. District Court Judge Susan Bolton Arizona’s new immigration reform law that is suppose to take affect tomorrow.  The following provisions have been struck down by her honor Susan Bolton:

•  The portion of the law that requires an officer make a reasonable attempt to determine the immigration status of a person stopped, detained or arrested if there’s reasonable suspicion they’re in the country illegally.

•  The portion that creates a crime of failure to apply for or carry “alien-registration papers.”

•  The portion that allows for a warrantless arrest of a person where there is probable cause to believe they have committed a public offense that makes them removable from the United States.

• The portion that makes it a crime for illegal immigrants to solicit, apply for or perform work. There are three parts to that part of the law. Two of them will go into effect, one of them will not.

I feel that her honor made the correct decision on the first provision regarding what constitutes as a reasonable determination.  Reason being (as I mentioned in a previous blog post).  The way I see this, I feel the question is what do you constitute as reasonable in determining a person’s legal status?  Do you consider the person’s skin color?  Because Hispanic people can be white in color or naturally tan/brown.  Just because they commit a crime?  Hispanics, whites, legal citizens and illegal immigrants all commit crimes and are arrested for them as well.  What if a Hispanic person is legal? How can they “prove” their citizenship when they already legal and your asking for a green card?  Most people do not carry their birth certificates around with them and I’m sure that illegals carry some form of a photo ID.  If legal Hispanic cannot provide proof of their legal status, are you going to detain and arrest them until they do or their identities are confirm?  Morally and ethically no, but this provision would open the gate for those who are here legally to be subject to discrimination of some form.

The others I feel she made the wrong decision.  That would be regarding warrantless searches, being a crime not carrying a green card, and making it a crime to solicit, apply for or perform work.  Regarding the warrentless searches, it falls under the jurisdiction of the 4th amendment of the US constitution which applies to any and all legal citizens of the United States, being illegal, you are not protected.  Such rights that we all have being legal does not apply to any of those who are here illegally with or without US identification like a state ID or driver’s license.   Regarding to the provision on having a green card, let me give you a parallel, if I were to visit another country or was a citizen of another country, then I would expected to have a passport or a green card equivalent to show that I am visiting and/or a citizen, so why not enforce that here.  It is already a federal so for a state to have an equivalent law, that is fine.  And finally with the last provision, if you are here illegally, you should not be able to work.  I understand that they may be hear to have a better life but doing it illegally is not the way in my opinion.

Steve

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/07/28/20100728arizona-immigration-law-court-ruling-brk28-ON.html

Hi all,

Here is another article about Arizona’s immigration reform law from yahoo news.  To summarize,  it states that Gov. Jan Brewer is going to appeal the decision made earlier today.  The decision on the legality of immigration reform.  The following points were including in the bill, but were struck down:

•  The portion of the law that requires an officer make a reasonable attempt to determine the immigration status of a person stopped, detained or arrested if there’s reasonable suspicion they’re in the country illegally.

•  The portion that creates a crime of failure to apply for or carry “alien-registration papers.”

•  The portion that makes it a crime for illegal immigrants to solicit, apply for or perform work. (This does not include the section on day laborers.)

•  The portion that allows for a warrantless arrest of a person where there is probable cause to believe they have committed a public offense that makes them removable from the United States.

To the Governor, these points are essential to the law enforcement to deter and prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country, especially in Arizona.

Now in all honesty, I may thing this is a measure that goes a bit far.  As I mentioned in a previous blog, I consider myself a moderate.  I take the side that you should not be here legally, then do not be, but I also feel that there are there is a proper way to do things rather than round up all people who “look” Hispanic and deport them.  Of the above provisions that were found as bad, I agree that the provisions of this law that were struck down and should stay struck down include “The portion of the law that requires an officer make a reasonable attempt to determine the immigration status of a person stopped, detained or arrested if there’s reasonable suspicion they’re in the country illegally.”  The way I see this, I feel the question is what do you constitute as reasonable?  Do you consider the person’s skin color?  Because Hispanic people can be white in color or naturally tan/brown.  Just because they commit a crime?  Hispanics, whites, legal citizens and illegal immigrants all commit crimes and are arrested for them as well.  What if a Hispanic person is legal? How can they “prove” their citizenship when they already legal and your asking for a green card?

The provisions that I feel that can be appealled and reinstated are:  The portion that creates a crime of failure to apply for or carry “alien-registration papers”,  the portion that makes it a crime for illegal immigrants to solicit, apply for or perform work. (This does not include the section on day laborers.),  the portion that allows for a warrantless arrest of a person where there is probable cause to believe they have committed a public offense that makes them removable from the United States.  I feel that if you come here to America legally (and I’m only talking about immigrants), for whatever reason, you need to carry your green cards in case your status needs to be check.  It is already a federal law and for individual states to have a state version of it, then that is alright.  If your hear illegally, why should you work here?  It is true that they may take the jobs that many Americans do not want, but if they’re here illegally, why should they benefit from our economy?  I’m taking the (probably) unpopular stance that I agree with warrant-less arrests of illegal immigrants.  Because the Constitution applies to legal citizens and being illegal citizen the constitution, the amendments including the 4th amendment one that protects us from unreasonable searches and seizures (including being arrested), are not rights of illegal immigrants (regardless of the nation of origin).

Steve

Sources:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/07/28/20100728arizona-immigration-law-court-ruling-brk28-ON.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100728/ts_alt_afp/uspoliticsimmigrationcourtbrewer

Hi all,

I want to make my position clear again.  I consider myself a moderate in the sense of the political view spectrum.  I feel that on financial and foreign policy issues I think more conservatively, while on social issues and domestic issues, I think more liberally.  As I write my blogs, I try to present the issues as unbiasedly as possible, but when I give my opinions on a subject, I tell you what I think as I see it and I try to give every side a chance and to be fair about it.

I just read a story from the Arizona Republic, Phoenix, Arizona’s main newspaper in that valley.  As you can see, it is just a little article just stating again that states Sheriff Joe’s position,  “If your here illegally, it is a crime and your going to jail.”  That is a true, valid, sound theory and argument in law enforcement.  Regardless of public opinion, go with your conscious on law enforcement as long as it follows the law as well (you know the constitutional amendments, internal policy, other by laws, etc.).   But he does pose a comment in the article saying on “‘Good Morning America’ saying he doesn’t know  ‘what the big hype is.'”

Since this article is so short, I will just summarize the article (which I did) and give my thoughts on the subject of addressing his comment of the “Big Hype.”  The “big hype” is in relation to Public Relations and Social Justice in which the ladder is not a cornerstone among conservatives and republicans.  So I can understand why he would not see this law as a “big hype”.  But  let us explore what the big hype is.  The big hype is racial profiling as the front and center issue.  Ok, think of the moment, in Arizona, which “racial group” (racial group by skin color) do you expect in Arizona other than whites,  Hispanics.   There are less Asians, immigrant Europeans, African Americans, etc. in Arizona let alone Maricopa County where Sheriff Joe is employed.  So it is not the easiest case to make when only 1 racial group is being targetted, but in defense of Hispanics, the claim is yes valid.  Hey if your targeting one group with the law, any law, yes it is discrimination and yes that is wrong.  One person of group should fight an uphill battle for equal rights, treatment, punishment, etc. under the law and in a land where we are all considered equal under the law.  One other issue with the passed law (that I will get to in a different bog entry) is having your green card (papers or whatever).  Sure it states yes your here legally for whatever time, but to force legal immigrants to have their papers is equal to Nazi Germany.  How so?  Because Nazi’s forced Jews to carry their papers of their citizenship and stipulating to their “race” as Jews.  A parellel?  I’ll let you decide.

Steve